10/14/2026
A few months after ChatGPT launched, one of the very first PaLM customers asked Manos Koukoumidis for the model weights.
He had to say no. The terms of use did not allow it.
So they asked if they could distill PaLM into their own internal version. Also no.
Manos was running the natural language services at Google Cloud at the time, and the request stuck with him. Why would a major organization push that hard for a model that was complex to build, complex to maintain, and expensive to run? By early 2023 he had his answer. They would not be the last to ask.
On the latest Talking AI episode, Manos, now cofounder and CEO of Oumi, explains why he left building Gemini to build pretty much the opposite: a platform that helps any enterprise create, deploy, and keep improving models it owns.
His rule is short. Rent what is generic. Build and own what differentiates you, or what costs you the most.
The customer asking for the weights was early. It was not wrong.
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